Zach sent me an Model 48 Heritage rifle chambered for 30 Nosler. (Read how heat eats barrels here.) I have been shooting and hunting with the 300 win mag long range for years. and even bests the .340 Wby. Since the .28 Nosler burns smaller powder charges than the 7mm RUM, barrel accuracy life is potentially a bit longer. Shoot heavy for caliber bullets with a powder to fill the case 90%+, keep peak pressure at 60K psi or below, shoot slow enough to keep the barrel cool to the touch and you'll get over 1500 rounds through it fine. Sharing the same parent case as the 26 and 28 Nosler cartridges, the 30 Nosler takes all the best attributes of currently available 30 magnums and combines them all in one cartridge. It is purely a big-game hunting cartridge that utilizes .338-inch bullets. In 2014 Nosler introduced the flat-shooting .26 Nosler, following it up in 2015 with the .28 Nosler (7mm) that was based on the .26 case but necked accordingly. - Old_Painless, [Last Edit: 11/19/2014 12:18:37 PM EST by OhioLongRange], [Last Edit: 11/19/2014 3:31:47 PM EST by Bend], http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/6-5-saum-101316/index4.html, http://forum.snipershide.info/snipers-hide-bolt-action-rifles/185807-new-gap-extreme-hunter-6-5-saum.html. However, this hard work ensures reliable and consistent accuracy from your new rifle and results in a barrel that is significantly easier to clean over its working life. I say "hogwash" to the barrel life concern. Simple Tricks to Extend Barrel Life. As a tip, adjust your sizing die to just barely bump the shoulder back between firings, and case life can be extended significantly. Most 308 Winchesters remain precision accurate for 5,000 rounds, hunting accurate for maybe double that. In 2016 the .30 Nosler was announced, and the latest cartridge to join the Nosler line is the .33 Nosler. I don't think anyone knows where that is and I bet it changes with with the cases used and the powders burned. Big capacity, small bore cartridges operating at very high pressure, such as the 6.5mm PRC, .26 Nosler and .30-378 Weatherby, are notorious barrel burners. The .28 Nosler cartridge is one of the best cartridges for hunting elk and other large game. 30 BR; 17 Cal; 20 Cal; 223 Rem; 22-250; 6 PPC; 6XC; 243 Win; 6.5x47; 6.5-284; 7mm.308 Win; Rimfire; Smiths; Optics; Stocks; Actions; Barrels; Bullets; Varmint; Vendors; Polls; Books; Calendar; HELP; Contact; Sponsors ; Advertise; Startling Facts About Barrel Life Barrels Lose Accuracy After a Few Seconds of Bullet-in-Barrel Time. Many have jumped on the band wagon and I have yet to hear one complaint about the accuracy or terminal performance if the bullet was placed anywhere close to where it should be. They all burn barrels faster than a 30-30 but you should get a few thousand hunting level accuracy shots if you are careful. The 30 Nosler is very easy to load for, and is quite well behaved with nearly all powders of proper burn rate for the bullet being loaded. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. No experience with the 26 Nosler's but both the 28 and 30 Noslers, the 28 Nosler is a barrel burner for sure but is a great option for a big 7mm if barrel life isn't a concern. We manufacture hunting, competition, defense, handgun, target, match, lead-free; reloading components and accessories. Mag. Whats more American than apple pie and baseball? Ballistically, the 30 Nosler is going to win most of the time at the expense of a relatively small amount of extra powder and barrel life. Designed with a maximum C.O.A.L. Basically I shoot a lot. I loaded 215 Bergers at 3.660" over H1000 in new cases. Certain target games don’t permit this, which is one reason moderate volume cartridges like 308 Win. Sharing the same parent case as the 26 and 28 Nosler cartridges, the 30 Nosler takes all the best attributes of currently available 30 magnums and combines them all in one cartridge. Anything from Retumbo up to H4831 work well, with IMR 7828 and RL 22 being a couple of the best. Compare these rounds in the charts below. Information Site  |  The 30 Nosler Press Release, 30 Nosler 190 GrainInformation  |  Ballistics, Bullet Style:  Custom CompetitionUse:  Targets / Competition, 30 Nosler 180 GrainInformation  |  Ballistics, Bullet Style:  AccuBondUse:  Elk, Moose & Dangerous Sized Game, 30 Nosler 210 GrainInformation  |  Ballistics, Bullet Style:  ABLRUse:  Elk, Moose & Dangerous Sized Game. Just as the 7mm STW is a necked-up version of the 6.5 STW, so it goes with the .28 Nosler and the .26 Nosler. The 30 Nosler eclipses the velocity of the 300 Weatherby, headspaces of the shoulder like a 300 RUM, has an efficient powder column like that of the 300 WSM and its in the same standard length action of a 300 W… From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Some 25-06 shooters have reported good hunting accuracy through 7,000 rounds. The 22 Nosler is designed to use the existing bolt face of an AR-15, and conversions to this caliber can be accomplished with a simple barrel swap. Accuracy is excellent with both. Introducing the new 30 Nosler cartridge by popular demand. Nosler, The World's Finest Bullets, Ammunition, Rifles, & Brass. The 30 does have noticeably more recoil. You don’t have to load every round smoking hot. Some are claiming as little as 600-round barrel life for RUM, 1,000 rounds for.28 Nosler, 2,000 for Rem. And, yes, I've shot a barrel out in less than 900 rounds. The 30-06 is right on its heels. Mag. And because the 30 Nosler has a belt-less case, it’s more accurate and makes for easier reloading. Top of the line performance matched with a top notch customization features. Copyright © 1996-2020 AR15.COM LLC. 30 caliber. Most people know there is no free lunch and N570/R-33 cost barrel life for more velocity. I made it out today to get some initial data with my 30 Nosler. Ballistics will go to the 28 my a slim margin, killing power to the 30. I have a Winchester M70 in 300h&h that I put about 800 rounds on the original barrel and the new barrel which is only two years old probably has near 500 rounds through it. The core rule to extend barrel life is to not shoot it fast and hot. The 30 Nosler eclipses the velocity of the 300 Weatherby, headspaces of the shoulder like a 300 RUM, has an efficient powder column like that of the 300 WSM and its in the same standard length action of a 300 Winchester Magnum while allowing for an additional 200 fps at the muzzle making for the perfect 30 caliber cartridge. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. The 30 Nosler is well behaved with nearly all powders of proper burn rate for the bullet being loaded. The success of the 26 Nosler led to an expansion in the lineup and now we have the 28 Nosler (7mm), 30 Nosler (.30 caliber), and the .33 Nosler (.338) to choose from. "If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?". Let it cool between shots. The 30 Nosler shares the same overall cartridge length (3.340") as the 26 Nosler and the 28 Nosler which allows it to be chambered in standard-length action firearms. of 3.340” and a case capacity of 88 grains of water, the 30 Nosler cartridge functions in a standard length action for shorter bolt throw and lighter weight than magnum length actions. The current review describes my findings with the Nosler Model 48 Mountain Carbon rifle, chambered in 26 Nosler. You can expect the barrel life to be similar to all overbore magnum rifles from the 25-06 to the 7mm Mag. My .260 will nearly do that. I have both, the 30 is going to have much better barrel life. I did some searching on barrel life last night and was surprised how little barrel life was expected, the 28 Nosler on one of the other forums was averaging 600 rounds before it was time for a new barrel. That is where I am back to looking at, but I haven't ruled out a .30 Cal as it supports a heavier load which is the gap I am feeling the need to fill. 30 Nosler may be an advantage for some with a shorter mag box length by .095″ However I have not had issues in a long action loading to the lands with a 300 win with these bullets. The 30 Nosler blows past the highly regarded 300 Winchester Magnum—eclipsing the round in all three testing categories. But do not post such stuff in this Technical Forum again, or you will get a formal Warning. With somewhere near.200” of freebore, the 300 Win mag is going to use 75-78 grains of H1000 most of the time, compared to 83-85 grains in … At 100 rounds my 28s throat moved .017" and the 30 has moved zero. look at the 6.5 SAUM 4S (GAP version of the RSAUM) if you want that performance but better barrel life 3000+, Proud Member of Ranstad's Militia- The Fantastic Bastards. The first two were both Model 48 Heritage rifles. Barrel is a 25" rock creek. Barrel life is excellent with the 300 win mag, as is brass life with sensible loads even with the 200 plus gr bullets. I'm wondering if the 26 nosler is really as hard on barrel throats as all the armchair commanders and mall ninjas online who have probably never seen much less owned one claim. This is not General Discussion. What’s more American than apple pie and baseball? Then you have to know where more pressure equals less barrel life compared to more powder. I SHOULD get decent barrel life as I’m doing it with about 5gr less H2O capacity than a 6.5-284, but I’m using 1-1.5gr less powder than published loads with a 6.5-284, so although it should still last quite a bit longer than a .26 Nosler, which you can shoot out while sighting in, I don’t know that it’ll make it much past 1200 rounds before things open up. 30 caliber. The .33 Nosler, the largest of the group, gives hunters significantly-increased velocities over the .338 Win. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. All Rights Reserved. The case diameter and taper resemble those of the Mar 28, 2020 #67 H. highdrum Well-Known Member. The advantage of the 30 Nosler over the 300 RUM is burning less powder hence, longer barrel life. Some are claiming as little as 600-round barrel life for RUM, 1,000 rounds for .28 Nosler, 2,000 for Rem. You will have naysayers of this round complain about barrel life. 26 Nosler 140 Grain Nosler AccuBond-Hunting~ The 26 Nosler is designed as a modern 6.5mm cartridge, using recent advances in firearm technology to attain exceptionally high muzzle velocities (up to 3,400 ft/s (1,040 m/s)) and maintain an extremely flat trajectory. While the 6.5 Nosler is really a hot rod, I suggest people consider why the would need it... [Last Edit: 11/20/2014 6:39:22 PM EST by Old_Painless], I'm going to give you a pass on that one. 30 Nosler vs. 300 Win Mag. Shoulder angles are 30 degrees for the Remington cartridge and a slightly sharper 35 degrees for the Nosler. Your 6.5 Ackley will EASILY launch the 120s at 3300 fps. I was hoping that the 26 nosler would be a better alternative but I know barrel life wont be nearly as long as the 6.5-06 Ackley and brass will be very spendy as of now. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. A good motto is "Too hot to hold, too hot to shoot." JD338. Yeah- I have to wonder with a lot of the big magnums in a hunting rifle though- who actually shoots these enough to burn out a barrel? Reactions: Mram10us and Elk Hunter 338. The 6.5 x 68 is very similar to the new Nosler 26. It is the most powerful 7mm cartridge commercially available, but it requires proper bullet design to work well for elk hunting. Due to its greater length, the Remington case is about 25 percent more capacious than the Nosler. 107 SW Columbia St | Bend, Oregon, USA 97702  |  Toll Free: 1-800-285-3701  |  catalog@nosler.comNosler Showroom / Open to the Public:  Monday - Friday 10:00 am to 5:30 pm PSTCorporate Hours:  Monday - Friday 8:00 am to 4:30 pm PST, Copyright 2013 - 2020Nosler Inc  |  Privacy  Use  Order Processing, Nosler - Bullets, Brass, Ammunition & Rifles. Powder burn rate and barrel length will come into play here. View Quote For an Ackley, brass cost & barrel ware can be deceptive since you have to load & fire-form, even with the cream-of-wheat method, before you get to a final load. Her rifle has a 1 x 8 twist, with a 26 inch barrel and she shoots 160 woodleighs with it on heavy bodied plains game, but from memory also likes to use 140 AB s . All I hunt is elk so I prefer the 30 just for the larger bullets. As a tip, adjust your sizing die to just barely bump the shoulder back between firings and case life can be extended significantly. Nosler's recommended procedure calls for about 30 rounds and plenty of time spent cleaning the bore, and takes most shooters the better part of a day at the range to complete. Brass quality and hardness will shadow true results as well. Anything from Retumbo up to H4831 will work well, with IMR 7828 and RL 22 being a couple of the best we have found. Fast forward to the present and, including the rifle described in this review, I have handled three Nosler guns. Some hig-volume varmint shooters have gone through 22 … * Available in Right Handed and Left Handed Rifles. The shoulder is set back slightly compared to the 5.56 cartridge to prevent accidentally chambering a 5.56 cartridge in a 22 Nosler rifle. Introducing the new 30 Nosler cartridge by popular demand. Smoking hot rifle chambered for 30 Nosler has a belt-less case, it ’ s more American apple! 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